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Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.01 20:15:00 -
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If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:
Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.
If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.
Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).
I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.
Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.
Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times). |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.01 20:23:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:This game works well without the AFKers.
Better, even.
Nobody needs you, stop kidding yourself.
You're the person that inspired this thread from another thread. PUT UP OR SHUTUP. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.01 21:31:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:
4) You must be in Caldari space.
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LOL after rereading it I found something I missed the first time. This is suicide. Any miner mining in this section of space is well ...........
It's not that crazy of a rule. If you are truly a "legitimate" miner who spams D-scan throughout the duration of your mining operation, you're in no more risk in Caldari space then any other high-sec space. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 00:46:00 -
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None of you wish to take up this challege? I'll add a more modest reward. I'll give you my last Hulk and Mack to supplement your pious mining dedication, as I no longer need them. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 01:00:00 -
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Doctor Benway Kado wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:baltec1 wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though. The simple truth is that the ice systems are few enough that you can maintain an armed presence in all of them, hence the ice interdictions.
Our interdiction also required the ice miners to not fit any kind of tank. We needed to make a profit on every kill to keep funding the event. And here is where it shows how kind I am. I fully allowed to fit the best tank. Oh wait, I was not kind. I know that fitting a vaguely viable tank would make him warp to the station every cycle so he'd earn 3M per hour. You know, EvE has consequences... *trollface.jpg* Wait, the average miner doesn't know how to use jetcans? Holy crap y'all are dumber than I thought.
To fit tank you must also sacrifice mining upgrades in your lows for that DCU and carry ecm drones instead of mining drones. Failure to fit a 30k ehp tank using tech 2 mods and ecm drones (at the expense of mining and cargo output) will either result in a swift death or force you to warp off every time a single dessie shows up, resulting in even less mining output. Fit a tank right and you can easily survive a T3 BC solo attack. Bring an armor tanked Arbitrator with large shield transporters and ecm in the meds and drones you can survive 4 tier 3 Bc's if you wish.
The problem however is that you may as well have a single account going into WH's with a Tengu instead for that much risk and effort. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 02:05:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:
Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.
If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.
Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).
I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.
Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.
Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times). Sure I'll do this. Did I mention I'll be doing it in a rohk? Oh, and my screen is probably going to be turned off, but don't worry the macros will keep everything going without me. That is how you RMT types roll, right?
This thread isn't about ganking. I haven't said one complaint about ganking.
This thread is about the reason that most people given to gank miners.
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Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 02:50:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:
Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.
If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.
Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).
I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.
Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.
Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times). No. I don't like mining, so I choose not to do it. You claim to like mining, so you have fun doing it. If you don't like putting some effort into mining, don't. Just find a way to do it that reduces your risk in other ways.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 02:50:00 -
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Bossy Lady wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:
Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.
If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.
Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).
I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.
Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.
Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times). I've lived in Curse (G-0Q) for the last year, and made my ISK doing Angel missions. During that time I have lost exactly 0 ships to hostiles, despite doing more missions than I can easily estimate. Constantly monitoring DSCAN is a part of that survival record. Accepting that I will inevitably lose a ship sooner or later due to carelessness, bad judgement or pure bad luck is also part of the game. If mining is too boring for you to watch the screeen while you're doing it, do something to make ISK that doesn't bore you. I can't fathom the motivation to cling so desperately to an activity you admit to finding so uninteresting.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
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Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 02:51:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote: I mine actively anyway,.
lololol
This time I mean it for real. PUT UP or SHUT UP |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:02:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:
Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.
If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.
Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).
I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.
Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.
Each producer of the initial 2hour-video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining. You will then receive a free Hulk and Mack if you manage to keep up a live stream of your mining for one month for at least 10 hours a week (scheduled times). No. I don't like mining, so I choose not to do it. You claim to like mining, so you have fun doing it. If you don't like putting some effort into mining, don't. Just find a way to do it that reduces your risk in other ways. PUT UP OR SHUT UP There are 11-12 other ways to mine safely during HAG than spamming D-Scan. Go do one of those.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
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Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:13:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
You're suggesting that people who don't like doing something should do that thing that they dislike.
The gankers are suggesting that people who like doing something slightly modify their habits to counteract other players habits while they continue doing that thing they like doing.
Who's being more reasonable?
I'm suggesting that people dont' be hypocrites. As elegantly phrased:
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I think you hit the nail on the head, and the reason of all the haters in this thread. While 5 mil is nearly nothing, I would say that the fact that no one wants to do it, just shows that they are all hypocritical anyways.They shouldn't expect other people to do what they themselves would never do."
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"#19 Posted: 2012.06.01 20:50 | Report | Edited by: Archimedes Eratosthenes
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Actually, I think the OP is a genius, he/she just proved that your hatred of "semi-afk" miners is ILL-FOUNDED because none of you would bother to be "legitimate" miners yourself.
Your real problem is that you like to make someone the boogey man for all the problems in the game. AFK mining helps this game much more than it could ever hurt it.
How about we all band together and gank the real problem-makers in this game. Goonswarm and their tech monopoly. We should start writing "manifestos" on the Tech bottleneck.
OH WAIT THE GOONS SHOOT BACK!
PS
Everytime I see these afk mining haters I'm going to refer them here so they can proves themselves to the community what good miners they are."
Now sir PUT UP OR STFU |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:22:00 -
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Doctor Benway Kado wrote:[quote=Vaerah Vahrokha]
Yeah, I don't see how any of this precludes throwing my ore into a jetcan, filling it up, docking up, grabbing my badger, and making two quick trips to grab everything. I mean, by your own rules, I can't use my alt or have my buddy bring an orca. I don't see why that means I can't grab my own hauler and haul my own ice? But really, that's besides the point. Flying to the station every cycle would actually make me safer - I can't be ganked when warping or docked. After all, I'm not doing this to maximize my isk per hour, apparently, I'm doing this emulate the Average Joe (who has no friends, mines in The Forge, and doesn't know how to jetcan).
Tell you what. Gimme the 20 or so days to train my alt account up so that I can fly a Mack or Hulk and fit it, and I'll drop corp with him and mine in a system of my choice in Caldari space. I'll even mine in The Forge if you have The Mittani hold the purse - if four hours of remote trading is so important, I'm sure you won't mind putting up, right?
Are you seriously suggesting to jetcan mine in a mining barge? You'll be can flipped as soon as you blink your eye with a pirate corp hiding on the other side of the gate waiting for you to either 1) Be dumb and flip the can back or 2) Bring out a combat ship to thwart the can flipper. either way you'll die to the pirate corp that's hiding on the other side of the gate. Obviously you've never worked or mined a day in your life in EvE.
PS
Is Mittani still emo raging over his 30 day ban? |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:28:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
I do, however, dislike people who come to the forums and whine that they were ganked in a game that explicitly allows ganking.
Where have I whined once about ganking? I'm simply trying to diffuse miner hatred that is being used as the scapegoat to enrich Goonies.
Ganking I have no problem with, I lost about 5-6 Hulks a year to ganks and never complained, but the profit and rewards more than paid for it. Now that's not possible, the Risk doesn't match the reward at all. If I were to be mining I'd be losing 8-10 a week. As for now I'll be taking my Tengu into WH's producing absolutely nothing for the community!
Stop PUTting words in my mouth. I never once complained about ganking, simply your attitudes towards semi-afk miners.
So sir when I say PUT UP or SHUT UP it doesn't mean to PUT words in my mouth.
On that grounds I am not responding to you again unless you put up a video.
Now.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:34:00 -
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Ituhata SakenHowever wrote:, I DO believe the majority of players hate you because when they interfere with your AFK mining you come to the forums and demand that action be taken in your favor.
You are lying. I never complained about being ganked. I asked people to make videos of themselves being righteous miners.
Liars cannot be taken seriously. Goodbye. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:36:00 -
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Doctor Benway Kado wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:Are you seriously suggesting to jetcan mine in a mining barge? You'll be can flipped as soon as you blink your eye with a pirate corp hiding on the other side of the gate waiting for you to either 1) Be dumb and flip the can back or 2) Bring out a combat ship to thwart the can flipper. either way you'll die to the pirate corp that's hiding on the other side of the gate. Obviously you've never worked or mined a day in your life in EvE.
PS
Is Mittani still emo raging over his 30 day ban? If this was about the isk, I'd do the smart thing and mine with my buddies in goonswarm territory. If I was a highsec miner, I'd find some friends in game, set up a triple web with two of them, and have an orca pilot haul for the three of us. If I was so unpleasant I couldn't find any friends, I'd plex up an alt and put 'em in an Iteron V. But since by your rules preclude all of these smarter, better, easier ways of mining, I guess I'll do it the needlessly risky and dumb way... since that seems to be the point of your challenge? I'm honestly not sure why I'm even bothering, it basically all seems to boil down to "Take the genuinely good advice given by gankers about what would deter them, and take it to it's ridiculous extremes for no real reason." Then again, I got Arthur's Trucks in Dead Rising, so maybe pointlessly annoying achievements for no reason is just in my blood.
How about Mittani, has his parents tried to convince him EvE is a game? |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:37:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:Ituhata SakenHowever wrote:, I DO believe the majority of players hate you because when they interfere with your AFK mining you come to the forums and demand that action be taken in your favor. You are lying. I never complained about being ganked. I asked people to make videos of themselves being righteous miners. Liars cannot be taken seriously. Goodbye. Quote:If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:
Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.
If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.
Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).
I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.
Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video. You can pretend they you aren't complaining about it, but the stealth whine did not go unnoticed.
GUESS WHAT
PUT UP OR SHUT UP |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.02 03:50:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:[and that's why even someone with an extreme opinion like James 315 is basically right - they ARE a danger to Eve. They'd burn the game to the ground if it let them mine in peace and safety.
Last I recall it was Goonswarm that hosted Jita Burns because Mittani was butthurt.
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Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.03 00:09:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Le Dei Opus wrote:Corina Jarr wrote: I mine actively anyway,. lololol This time I mean it for real. PUT UP or SHUT UP Pay for a webcam for me and I will. Otherwise take your own advice. Edit: and I won't do it in Caldari space unless you pay me an exorbitant amount of ISK to take my Hulk 20 jumps. Or you supply the Hulk, in which case I will move there tonight. 
No one will be paid in advance for the initial 2 hour video. Show me your pious miner dedication. Also if the profits of high sec mining were as great as you kids claim, you wouldn't need to be paid at all to make these videos.
However I'll raise the price to 100,000,000 ISK for a video that matches my conditions in the OP. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:07:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
2) I uploaded a pair of Videos already.
Where? I will hand you the ISK right now. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.03 14:30:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
Now put your "prize" money in the hands of a 3rd party and PUT UP OR SHUT UP, as you so eloquently put it.
I am a 3rd party and collateral holder myself (see sig) but for 5M... isn't it a tad too little amount to bother with the procedure? Edit: my offer expired.
I upped it to 100,000,000 and I'll give you the ISk if you wish to hold it.
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